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Mrs May can take comfort from the fact that yesterdays vote means absolutely nothing according to undemocratic remainers understanding of votes.

Barbara Shillabeer ● 2863d21 Comments

MP's have a vote.... and that's undemocratic? That's a new one.

Matt Palmer ● 2863d

I think what will be difficult for some people is how to vote at the next General Election.  I know that I may not vote next time around.  This will be a first for me.  I am hearing the same from other people.

Martine Guy ● 2863d

I'd be inclined to agree, I have no idea who I would vote for. Perhaps Putney needs it's own Lord Buckethead

Matt Palmer ● 2863d

Sorry I don’t get it, who is Lord Buckethead? Yes, I know it’s a joke.

Martine Guy ● 2863d

Another one who doesn't know who to vote for next time round. #AnyoneButCorbyn

Lucille Grant ● 2863d

He's the modern day equivalent of screaming lord sutch basically.

Matt Palmer ● 2862d

We are lucky in having a very good MP in Justine Greening - so no problem for me, although I am not by inclination a Tory.

Caroline Whitehead ● 2862d

It would be an easy decision for me if Jacob Rees-Mogg was elected the Tory leader.A highly intelligent man, calm, considered, happy to debate with people that have an opposing view to his and he knows whats is the best way forward for Britain.Fast becoming a statesman like figure which Britain is currently lacking on the world stage in Teresa May.

Paul Game ● 2862d

Jacob 'it will take 50 years to feel the benefit of Brexit' Rees Mogg as Leader of the Tory Party? This would be funny if I didn't  think you were being serious Paul. 'Statesman like figure' hahaha.

Lucille Grant ● 2862d

From the Des Moines Register (USA):-"Bad politicians are elected by good people who don't vote."

David Ainsworth ● 2862d

Paul, I would like to see Rees-Mogg as PM too.  He should be a front bench minister at the very least right now.

Sue Hammond ● 2862d

When I've listened to Ms Greening at local hustings I've often had to remind myself that she's representing the Tory party - unfortunately, she's tainted by association with her colleagues that have caused disasters like the Windrush scandal, Universal Credits and colleagues who'd sell out the NHS to US health companies who've made the US medical system one of the most expensive, inefficient and inequitable in the western economies.

Michael Ixer ● 2862d

Me too Paul and Sue.I think the way things are going though it would be better if he became leader of a populist right wing party that actually wanted to deliver Brexit.  Our two current party choices clearly do not, at least in no meaningful way, and assuming they get their way interesting to see how the tories can survive - parliamentary party totally out of touch with their core voters and the majority of their own party membership it would seem.

Mike Warman ● 2862d

@MichaelI usually vote Tory and do like JG because she helped me in the past but unfortunately she doesn't represent me with her views on Brexit, so she won't be getting my vote in future. I know local gov and central gov politics are totally separate and shouldn't be mixed up but I feel so passionately about Brexit I wouldn't be able to vote for her now.

Sue Hammond ● 2862d

I think the Labour Party will also have real problems at the next GE.  How are they going to get Brexit supporting northerners to vote for them.  Will they vote or will they feel betrayed?

Martine Guy ● 2862d

Good analysis of exactly this question from Stephen Bush in the New Statesman.https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/01/here-s-why-it-so-difficult-predict-how-brexit-will-shape-next-electionShort version: it's really, really hard to predict because many/most people are not single-issue voters so, while they may feel very strongly one way or the other about Brexit, their feelings on the economy, the NHS etc will also make a difference.Key quote:"...we know that in the event that Labour facilitates Brexit, then the party will pay an electoral price among Remainers and that if it blocks Brexit it will pay an electoral price among Leavers if (and this is the crucial part) the next election is about Brexit. What we don’t know is what the next election will be about."

James Elder ● 2862d

To adapt Cassius Clay. "Rees Mogg will become prime minister when the Pope becomes a Baptist".

Alexander MacLeod ● 2862d

See my new thread - Corbyn is throwing down the gauntlet for a General Election

Lucille Grant ● 2862d

Perhaps with Jaguar Land Rover shedding another 4,500 jobs on top of the 1,500 cuts previously announced those who embraced Brexit won't be too keen on it in future? I know the uncertainty caused by the possibility on a no deal is  only one factor in this but when there's the possibility of a recession caused by Trump's trade wars surely more uncertainty is the last thing businesses need?

Michael Ixer ● 2862d

Mike you are spot on.As I mentioned before it would be more balanced and representative for the public if the 2 main parties split into 2 each, but as I think you said in a previous thread it's not workable because of the electoral system.It would be fascinating though to see an election result if this happened.

Paul Game ● 2862d

There is an appetite for something different at least in West Hill Ward - when I resigned the Conservative Party whip in 2014 I didn't believe there was any chance of being re-elected to the Council as an independent but last year locals actually gave me more votes (4002) than any other candidate in London. I'd certainly support Justine if she followed the same path but if not I wonder if anyone else might come forward?

Malcolm Grimston ● 2861d