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"two words, Laffer curve"Supply-side economists have long used the Laffer curve to justify tax cuts, including Ronald Reagan’s in 1981 and George W. Bush’s in 2001. Both resulted in lower revenues. In December 2017 Mr Trump’s administration cut income taxes across the board, and slashed the corporate-tax rate from 35% to 21%. At the time, Steven Mnuchin, America’s treasury secretary, argued that the plan would “pay for itself” and even “pay down debt”.‬ But the promised revenues have yet to materialise. Federal tax revenues actually fell in 2018. The Congressional Budget Office, a government watchdog, now reckons that the national debt will hit 95% of GDP by 2027, up from 89% two years ago before the tax cuts.America is not the only country that appears to be on the wrong side of Mr Laffer’s curve. A paper published in 2017 by Jacob Lundberg, an economist at Timbro, a Swedish free-market think-tank, estimates Laffer curves for 27 OECD countries. Using data on Sweden’s income distribution and assumptions about how taxpayers respond to different tax rates, Mr Lundberg found that, even though five countries in his sample have top income-tax rates that exceed their revenue-maximising levels, only Sweden could meaningfully boost revenue by cutting tax rates on high-income earners. Most countries, in other words, appear to have set their highest tax rates at or below the optimal rate suggested by the Laffer curve.This may explain why many economists are so critical of Mr Laffer’s supply-side policies. In 2012 the Initiative on Global Markets, a research centre at the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business, asked a panel of 40 economic experts whether a cut in income-tax rates in America would raise enough revenue to pay for itself in five years. Not one of them agreed. Richard Thaler, winner of last year's Nobel prize in economics, responded simply “That's a Laffer!”.

Matt Palmer ● 2679d

"approximately 1,100 complaints were lodged between April 2018 and January 2019, but 433 (nearly 40 per cent) were found to relate to non-Labour Party members, which brought it down to 673. (That still leaves a problem in wider society though.)Of those complaints there was no evidence of a case to answer in 220 of those complaints, and we can speculate that those accusations were either wildly exaggerated or vexatious.That still leaves more than 400 members (out of approximately 550,000 — so around 0.07 per cent) who had expressed views concerning Jews that were judged as requiring further investigation and disciplinary action.Some received suspensions, others formal/written warnings about their behaviour, while just 12 were expelled.The PLP agitators on this felt this was much too small a number of expulsions but on the basis of the Chakrabarti recommendations that expulsion should be a last rather than first resort, and that education should be the preferred response — to me that is a positive outcome.There are 24 cases that have reached the highest panel that remain outstanding, so that expulsion figure may well rise but not dramatically.There were two other statistics that seem important from Formby’s exemplary response: one is that 44 members quit Labour while their hearing was pending. That suggests that Labour is not at all a hospitable or comfortable place for anti-semites. They knew they would be found out and they jumped before being pushed out.The other statistic relates to Margaret Hodge — who has been leading a crusade on this matter. She had personally submitted 200 of the complaints, but these were not 200 separate individuals.They concerned 111 people, and 91 of them — 91 out of 111 — turned out not to be members of the Labour Party.So, the 20 Labour Party members with a case to answer notwithstanding, Hodge was one of those most responsible for false and exaggerated claims against the Labour Party over anti-semitism." https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/what-do-jennie-formby%E2%80%99s-stats-tell-us-about-anti-semitism-labour-party

David Ainsworth ● 2679d

"Where has the [oil] money gone?"Tax cuts apparently:-"So where did our billions go? Hawksworth writes: "The logical answer is that the oil money enabled non-oil taxes to be kept lower." In other words: tax cuts. When the North Sea was providing maximum income, Thatcher's chancellor, Nigel Lawson slashed income and other direct taxes, especially for the rich. The top rate of tax came down from 60p in the pound to just 40p by 1988. He also reduced the basic rate of income tax; but the poor wouldn't have seen much of those pounds in their pockets, as, thanks to the Tories, they were paying more VAT.What did Thatcher's grateful children do with their tax cuts? "They used the higher disposable income to bid up house prices," suggests Hawskworth. For a few years, the UK enjoyed a once-in-a-lifetime windfall; and it was pocketed by the rich. The revolution begun by Thatcher and Reagan is often seen as being about competition and extending markets. But that's to focus on the process and overlook the motivation or the result. As the historian of neoliberalism Philip Mirowski argues, what the past 30 years have been about is using the powers of the state to divert more resources to the wealthy. You see that with privatisation: the handing over of our assets at knock-down prices to corporations and supposed "investors", who then skim off the profits. The transformation of the North Sea billions into tax cuts for the wealthy is the same process but at its most squalid."https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/13/north-sea-oil-money-uk-norwegians-fund

David Ainsworth ● 2678d

Hi Paul, I'll let Clare answer for herself obviously but i'll answer both points as well.No, I don't see anybody inspirational on the front bench, maybe Keir Starmer a tiny little bit but generally I find them as uninspiring as a find the tories. I'm certainly not a Corbyn groupie, I used to quite like him but now I think he's pretty useless. That said though, I do like quite a lot of their policies. I've generally been a lib-dem or green voter anyway so it's not that surprising I don't really like Labour politicians I guess. Not that I see anything inspiring in many of them either.Frankly i'm tired of the lot of them.I didn't actually see your reply where you posted the link to the video but you'll be pleased to know i've just found it - no mean feat on this bag 'o shite website i can assure you.Interestingly, you are absolutely right, there are a bunch of people there wearing masks and I don't really agree with it because they look pretty menacing. I've been on every anti-Trump, anti-Brexit march that has happened and i've never seen these people :( At the last Trump march there were men with video recorders on the roof of a few buildings so maybe they were covering their faces for that but overall I agree with you, it changes the atmosphere when you have people like that their. I only saw families having fun which is what I much prefer.As Clare pointed out (on the same thread I think) the guy who got milkshaked and abused was a known EDL member, so ultimately I don't care about him. He got what he deserved.In regards to right wingers wearing masks - it does happen, you can read about them here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonome_NationalistenHopefully that answers your questions!

Matt Palmer ● 2677d

One of the most perceptive posts on this thread was by Freddie Francis (12/07/19 17:21:00). I agreed with much of it. I believe a lot of people are deeply concerned about the rise of antisemitism in the Labour Party. It comes mostly from the flood of new hard left supporters joining since Corbyn became leader. The extremely poor way the party has reacted - by accusing critics of being anti Corbyn and/or Blairites shows you how blind they are to their own prejudice.  Jonathan Freedland nailed it in Friday’s Grauniad.  Here’s the link (sorry) https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/12/labour-antisemitism-populist-left-jews-bankers-rothschildI have long been a critic of the hard, inflexible and utterly intransigent line taken by the Israeli government towards the hapless Palestinian population and their disproportionate response to rocket attacks from Gaza and demos on the border fence.  But of course one can and must be able to criticise them without being accused of antisemitism. Freedland however points out that much of the antisemitism has little to do with Israel and more to do with deep ideological hostility to capitalism itself. Here old and loathsome myths loom large - that there a conspiracy of the Rothschilds, Soros and other members of the so-called Jewish elite to dominate world finance, the media, you name it.  Conspiracy theories like this are shared by too many on the right too.  Nasty. How do we combat this?  By calling it out at every opportunity.  By challenging the so-called certainties that drive it.  But it’s going to be a long struggle to eradicate it from the current Labour Party I fear.

Jonathan Callaway ● 2677d

"Freedland however points out that much of the antisemitism has little to do with Israel and more to do with deep ideological hostility to capitalism itself."Right up there with Labour MP for Mitcham and Morden, Siobhain McDonagh then."Labour MP Siobhain Mcdonagh: “to be anti-capitalism is to be anti-semitic”""In an interview on BBC Radio 4 this morning, Labour MP for Mitcham and Morden, Siobhain McDonagh, made the link between anti-capitalists and anti-semitism. When asked if the Labour party are taking anti-semitism seriously, she replied:“I’M NOT SURE THAT SOME PEOPLE IN THE LABOUR PARTY CAN, BECAUSE IT’S VERY MUCH PART OF THEIR POLITICS – OF HARD LEFT POLITICS – TO BE AGAINST CAPITALISTS, AND TO SEE JEWISH PEOPLE AS THE FINANCERS OF CAPITAL”She was then asked: “In other words, to be anti-capitalist you have to be anti-semitic?”She replied (but clearly then starts to backtrack):“YES. NOT EVERYBODY BUT ABSOLUTELY, THERE’S A CERTAIN STRAND OF IT AND THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT LABOUR, HAVE NEVER BEEN LABOUR BUT WE NOW FIND THEM IN OUR PARTY”John Humphrey then asked: “Don’t they become Labour when they join the party?”Her reply:“NOT AS FAR AS I SEE IT. I BELIEVE THAT THE LABOUR PARTY HAS A VERY STRONG SET OF VALUES RELATED TO HOW WE SEE SOCIETY SHOULD BE RUN AND ABOUT BEING ANTI-RACIST, WHICH THEY CANNOT BE PART OF”It is clearly very problematic and actually borders upon anti-semitism in itself to immediately make the association between Jewish people and banking/financing – repeating an anti-semitic trope on national radio is appalling."https://nyebevannews.co.uk/labour-mp-siobhain-mcdonagh-to-be-anti-capitalism-is-to-be-anti-semitic/Anyone, heads up, do not criticise capitalists, especially if you are in the Labour Party. It's probably acceptable, just, if you are Tory or Lib-Dem.

David Ainsworth ● 2677d