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General Election Poll

Will be called in the next few months. Which Party would you vote for? No interrogations or recriminations required, just a simple answer please. My vote ~ The Brexit Party

Sue Hammond ● 2656d26 Comments

There might be two answers to the question - before and after 31 October. If there’s an election before then it will be very interesting to see a) what’s in the major party manifestos and b) who therefore will feel able to represent them.

Jonathan Callaway ● 2656d

Difficult to tell at the moment. It depends what alliances there are, whether tactical voting would hold and who's jumped ship nearer the time.

Michael Ixer ● 2656d

Careful Sue. You'll upset Simon with yet another political thread😉

Lucille Grant ● 2656d

Lucille, I would never want to upset the lovely Simon.💕I only wanted a one word answer but I suppose that was an unrealistic request.😐

Sue Hammond ● 2656d

Once a No-Deal Brexit had happened on October 31st, what would be the point of a general election?

David Ainsworth ● 2656d

Sue, not the Brexit or Conservative party. One of the others depending on candidate, manifesto and the situation overall.Nick

Nicholas Evans ● 2656d

You're not supporting Labour now Nick? Is Corbyn the problem?

Sue Hammond ● 2656d

Hello Sue,The Conservatives and Labour are an enormous problem!

Ivonne Holliday ● 2656d

Strike while the iron is hot?  Brexit bonus at the polls = working majority = a full 5 years of Johnson the PM. They may have worked through the economic car crash of Brexit by 2024.

Jonathan Callaway ● 2656d

Johnson certainly must be there to enjoy the fruits. I am sure that none of the other parties would wish to take that away from him. Wouldn't be fair nor sensible.

David Ainsworth ● 2656d

Sue, gosh, you are a tease. As the most disastrous thing which could happen to our country is a hard Brexit, it will depend on what the manifestos of the various parties say, including Labour. If Justine Greening goes independent and rejects Boris and his motley crew, I still wouldn't vote for her despite her belated anti-Brexit stance.Nick

Nicholas Evans ● 2655d

I will vote tactically to do whatever I can to block or weaken brexit, especially no-deal brexit.Brexit is the single biggest national issue of my lifetime with the greatest potential to destroy much that I see that is positive about the UK, carefully built up over decades

Sean Hodges ● 2655d

Absolutely, and I will be voting tactically too: probably LibDem, but maybe Justine if she openly commits to opposing Brexit (preferably by joining the LibDems).

Richard Carter ● 2655d

Seconded Sean

Lucille Grant ● 2655d

@Nick 09.54"Sue, gosh, you are a tease."Good morning Nick. Gosh I haven't been called a tease for a very long time and I rather liked it. 😉You sound very confused about your choice which is completely understandable when our politicians are chopping and changing their views, and even which party they belong to; Chuka Umunna has changed his mind 3 times since February.🙄I am lucky because my mind is set on The Brexit Party and it will not change, even after 31st October when Brexit has been achieved. You might say that Farage and The Brexit Party would then be spent which is a fair point, but Farage is on another mission now.  He intends to have candidates fighting for every seat in the next GE and smash the redundant two-party political system in this country.  In his own words: "I said in 2013 that Ukip was going to cause an earthquake in British politics and I think we can safely say we did that."“The ambition now is to cause a revolution in British politics – and to end the two-party structure as it is, it’s just not working."One day Farage will be recognised as the most influential political figure since Thatcher and will hopefully be given the honour that he deserves.

Sue Hammond ● 2655d

Sue, I’m not confused at all. I will vote anti-Brexit. I think you are the most confused person on this forum (🙂) believing as you do all the lies that Nigel Farage peddles about the sunlit uplands beyond a no-deal Brexit. You will be disappointed in his “revolution in British politics”.Nick

Nicholas Evans ● 2655d

Hi Nick. I am not confused 🙃 at all but thankyou for your concern.😸 I wasn't criticising you so don't be so prickly.🌵 The point I was trying to make (badly) is that Remainers have multiple choices to consider, which could be confusing when the rhetoric is constantly changing. I suppose you have the choice of LibDem, The Green Party and Change UK or whatever they call themselves now, so good luck with sorting that lot out.  Assuming the Tories will campaign on the Leave ticket and Labour can't decide one way or the other I expect there will be a lot of pacts between parties and plenty of tactical voting going on.

Sue Hammond ● 2655d

Sue, no doubt you will be extremely worried that your Brexit Party detracts from the Conservative vote in Putney and neither party wins. Here’s hoping.Meanwhile the Emperor Alexander “Boris” Johnson’s Rasputin, otherwise known as Dominic Cummings, is plotting for him to call an election before the 31st of October to be held just afterwards. Democratic? I don’t think so. N.

Nicholas Evans ● 2655d

If Johnson calls an election for after October 31st, leaves with No Deal on October 31st, and loses that general election soon after, then could a new, incoming government reverse the decision?

David Ainsworth ● 2655d

@NickThe Brexit Party would never win Putney in a million years and you know it Nick. Putney is Remain Central so the Conservatives will probably lose the seat to the LibDems. My prediction.Is a GE after 31st October democratic? Don't see why it isn't. Perhaps it's just another political game in the maelstrom started by Miller, Grieve, Cooper et al, who have tried their hardest to thwart Brexit and overturn the biggest democratic vote this country has ever had.

Sue Hammond ● 2655d

@David. Yes, in can reverse the UK legislation but my understanding it would then have to reapply for EU membership as the original treaty would have been terminated.  It's possible the  EU might fast track it to avoid further disruption in the EU and UK. but I'd imagine the UK would have to agree to join the Euro and Schengen in the long term although I guess they're cans that can be kicked down the road. 

Michael Ixer ● 2655d

Presumably they'll be a referendum to see if we want to rejoin.

Andy Pike ● 2655d

@ Andy 22.33"Presumably they'll be a referendum to see if we want to rejoin."In the words of Brenda from Bristol: "You're joking..not another one!" 🙀

Sue Hammond ● 2655d

"Presumably they'll be a referendum to see if we want to rejoin."Could be, although I should say that if Johnson had just lost a General Election, a Referendum would appear unnecessary. Of course, if he won the election, then I'd say that the Remain game was up, I think.

David Ainsworth ● 2655d

Depends what the impact of a hard Brexit is. I could see the UK rejoining the EU within a decade although it's likely if the UK does leave there'll be some, possibly major, changes within the EU. That's if the UK survives a hard Brexit: the Irish issue will remain, and Scotland and Wales are likely to become a problem if they go into recession.  

Michael Ixer ● 2655d

Brenda from Bristol was referring to another Election not Referendum, although I guess her attitude  might be the same.I doubt whether an Election shortly would provide a large turnout as people generally seem sick and tired of being asked to vote.

Lucille Grant ● 2654d