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Brexit will fail, fail, fail ...

I see this is doing the rounds of Facebook again. It's probably quite accurate in that if one looks at the requirements for Brexit, the Good Friday Agreement, the Terms of EU membership, and the A50 requirements, and analyse it using set theory it's probably an insoluble problem. Any result is either going to require compromise or is going to break at least one other agreement and cause trouble. That's why, as our US friends say, we are where we are ... I suspect May's deal was probably the least worst solution. 

Michael Ixer ● 2621d13 Comments

Yes, I saw it tonight.I also wondered if May's deal could have a chance of being brought back to the table.Sadly, instead of seeking a best option for the UK, we will be considering the least worst one....

Ivonne Holliday ● 2621d

May's deal, and I don't understand the details, inadvertently got incorporated as an amendment into the block no deal legislation but, to be honest, it's disliked by all so unless there's a massive compromise "oink flap" moment between the ERG and Remainers it's unlikely to ho anywhere...

Michael Ixer ● 2621d

I can't believe it will get passed. It's the worst option after No Deal. We'd have no voice at the table at all.

Lucille Grant ● 2620d

I agree, I do not like the Withdrawal Agreement either.  But I fear a No deal.Is it 1 November 2019 that the EU law on declaration of offshore accounts comes into effect?If it is, then the dreaded no-deal shall be.  Not because it is in the UK's interest, but because it is against the interests of certain people of influence....

Ivonne Holliday ● 2620d

I don't think Remain has anything to worry about, parliament has no intention of letting us leave the EU, it never has :(

Adam Tripp ● 2620d

but if the EU say they've had enough and do not offer an extension then no deal it is despite all the shenanigans in Parliament.Oh to see loopy Soubry's face if that happens.Corbyn will probably then say he wanted us out all the time.I wonder if the EU realise they could be Boris' election trump card

Andy Pike ● 2620d

But as I noted above the UK can until 31/Oct  unilaterally revoke A50 if, for example, it wanted more time for another referendum. 

Michael Ixer ● 2620d

@AndyExactly. The little wannabe Bonaparte is threatening to flex his massive ego and veto any extension. A friendly word in Viktor Orban's ear could do it too. Or Boris could play a game and send his representative to ask for a 24 hour extension, a pointless gesture but complying with the law ...

Sue Hammond ● 2620d

Most MPs including the "rebels" signed up to trigger A50 an would lose all credibility if they went back on that decision. We don't need another referendum, the government were advised by the majority of the people that they wished to leave the EU.406 Constituencies voted Leave242 Constituencies voted Remain

Chantal Blake-Milton ● 2620d

'advised' being the key word

Matt Palmer ● 2620d

We do need another referendum:-https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-a-second-eu-referendum-were-held-today-how-would-you-vote/Never say never again.

David Ainsworth ● 2620d

I see on the news that Johnson has admired a no deal represents failure. Wow, for once I agree with him. So why is hge setting himself, and the UK, up for failure. Surely, if he can't game a deal, rather than "fail" we should stay in the EU while we sort ourselves out? Anything else seems madness?

Michael Ixer ● 2620d

Leavers don't recognise the word 'advised' Matt.

Lucille Grant ● 2620d