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Labour Putney candidate

The most ridiculous thing of all, is all the labour backers on this forum haven’t been even met or spoken to Fleur yet they will vote for the weird party.Not even a working class party. A pure socialist party A party that would without any doubt turn the lights off and we would all be absolutely gone, the sad thing is not many will remember the 70s, until Thatcher saved the entire country

Nick Gulliford ● 2526d35 Comments

Just to give an opposing view, rather than this becoming the usual Tory group hug...> The most ridiculous thing of all, is all the labour backers on this forum haven’t been even met or spoken to Fleur yet they will vote for the weird party.All? Are you sure Nick? That's a bold claim!I'm voting Labour and I've never voted for them before. (I've never voted Tory ever, and never will, just to be clear).I've no problem saying I'm voting for Labour as a tactical vote as they're the party best placed to oust the Tories in Putney. Their policies are far more acceptable than the Tories too. If it wasn't such a tight call in Putney then I'd probably be voting Green or possibly LibDem, but I don't have to make that decision.And, despite being a robot (as declared by Paul G) I've managed to go to the hustings, and also meet Fleur on the streets whilst she was canvassing and had an interesting chat with her and Steve (a councillor from across the water in H&F).Anyway, that's all a moot point as why is there a need to meet or speak to the candidate in order to vote for them? Since when is that a pre-requisite of suffrage?Just sounds like the Tories are getting (quite rightly) all panicky. Quick, someone suggest that Upper Richmond Road is beginning to look like the main street in Caracas! ¡Ay, caramba!

Alex Greenbank ● 2526d

That’s what constitutes ridiculous? Not actually meeting your candidate? Seriously?I never met any of the MPs for Putney including Greening who I must have voted for on several occasions. How ridiculous is that then Nick? I also “remember the seventies” and voted for Thatcher in 79 and every of her other elections. Amazing eh? And so you know, I’m not voting Labour. I’d hate to provoke your knee jerk accusation of me of being some kind of degenerate. Stick to what you’re good at. Putney business news.

Freddie Francis ● 2526d

you're wasting your breath Nick. unfortunately F.A. will win Putney if this remain dominated forum is representative of the constituency. yes, that would be democracy in action but the remainers seem blinkered to the spend, spend, spend & tax, tax, tax regime they want to elect in order to thwart brexit. you get F.A., you get Corbyn.

Adam Tripp ● 2526d

@Alex. Yes, just like Boris, Nick has just made up his facts. I have met and spoken to Fleur. 

Michael Ixer ● 2526d

Corbyn’s not going to win. So maybe you are also wasting your breath. Or are you just panicking at the thought?

Freddie Francis ● 2526d

Brexit is for life, Corbyn or anyone else is only for 5 years. I have met Fleur, and she came across very well. Labour offer a route to remain, and are the best party to do that in Putney. As I've said before, I don't care about anything else. The tories have had 9 years. It's time for a change. Vote. Don't vote conservative. Stop boris. Stop Brexit.

Clare Noeken ● 2526d

@Alex. “And, despite being a robot (as declared by Paul G)”. I think he means ‘bot’ rather than robot, bless him.

Freddie Francis ● 2526d

could everyone just please acknowledge that there is no one voting for Fleur Anderson tomorrow.. the system is you vote for a party not a person.so the calculations of voting have nothing to do with Fleur Anderson, whom I have never met and have no opinion of, but my vote, still undecided, is that maybe being stuck with a Labour MP for 5 years is a better option than having Boris Johnson run amok for 5 years.  I'd probably vote for Will Sweet for reasons nothing to do with party affilliation tomorrow, more for what he's done as a councillor from my perspective as a resident of putney high street.. but i might have to hold my nose and vote for Fleur to keep BoJo from becoming the British Trump.. still undecided.    but let's not pretend that any candidate is standing on their own merits.  no one is electing any person to represent them, this is a chess game, the candidates are the pieces on the board.

Mary McCue ● 2526d

I've been to two hustings and met/spoken to Fleur.If it wasn't for the fact i'm voting Green i would def vote for her. I think she comes across really well. I was at the hustings this evening. I can summarise it like this for you.Q: what would you do about 'this'Labour: We would do thisTory: LABOUR WILL RAISE TAXES/SELL YOUR CHILDREN/FORCE YOU TO BREAK ROCKS IN A PRISON CAMPIt got to the point where even I lost my temper and shouted at him because he refused to answer a single question with a policy and instead just pointed at Labour and told scare stories.Negative campaigning like that just gets my goat. Why not be positive and tell us what you want to do?

Matt Palmer ● 2526d

because Matt - this election is not about the candidates, it's about one single issue.on december 13th, everyone will say the people have spoken, and in fact, it will be that the people have spoken on many different issues, but none of them are the one they say people will have spoken onsome will say it's a convincing mandate to "get brexit done"some will say the mandate to "get brexit done" was not supported by the pollsfact is, that's the only question on the table today and there will be no answer tomorrow because an election with all the other issues was not the right way to answer that - should have been a referendum on brexit, not a general election.but the politicians will spin it as they choose, sod us.

Mary McCue ● 2526d

Mary, you sum it up in a nutshell.We are being played. It’s an absolute disgrace, but it is the truth.The options before us are all flawed.I hope we can see through the smokescreens that are attempting to blind us and see some light.Don’t vote for a fecker hiding in a fridge, for the sake of Jaysus!Shine on!

Paul Doorly ● 2526d

@Mary I agree Mary, this is not a presidential election, much as some would have us believe, WE do not get to vote for JC or BJ but a party with policies. This is the UK not the USA.I get your point re Will Sweet and how he might have assisted you when he was in the council, but this is a different game now.We will still have a Tory council with low tax etc, we will have a Tory government after the election. Question is, do we want a pro-Brexit, pro Heathrow expansion, pro austerity Tory  MP?

Paul Doorly ● 2526d

Yes. I agree overall that we are voting for a party but we should remember that a parliamentary party is the sum of its MPs - in fact, if it's properly led it's greater than the sum of its MPs - so in a sense we are also voting for candidates. (I could suggest that the last Tory parliamentary party failed to achieve its objectives as being poorly led by a succession of PMs - including one hoping to be reelected tomorrow - so it was less than the sum of its candidates?) Probably I'll get criticised again for being to analytical ...

Michael Ixer ● 2526d

It’s interesting, Michael, that we might have a Tory government tomorrow with a significant number of Tory MP’s from the North, from seats that were traditionally Labour. How will these MP’s react to austerity, cuts in welfare and local issues etc. If they have only been elected on Get Brexit Done?!? Whatever that means, there’s going to be trouble ahead.

Paul Doorly ● 2526d

You have a comic book view of the 70's. Were you a small child when Thatcher came to power?

Michael Winstanley ● 2526d

Apologies all, I was about 10 pints down last night when I posted!Have a good day all, take care

Nick Gulliford ● 2526d

We love drunk Nick!  Hope the head isn't too sore today

Craig Fordham ● 2526d

I believe that some people will vote for Fleur  simply because she appears to be a sound  local representative for Putney, is a Remainer, beat the Momentum candidate and isn't following her Party line in the way that Will Sweet is doing. As a Wandsworth Councillor he has been instrumental in cutbacks for vulnerable children and their families. Still think overall Boris will be back in No 10 though :-(

Lucille Grant ● 2526d

Yes.

Matt Palmer ● 2526d

With you on this one. And frankly after seeing that appalling poster showing a picture of Corbyn with the strap line “would you trust this man with your children” makes me think twice about voting either Tory or Libdem. You had a good person in Justine Greening. Shame she is no longer in the borough.

Maxine Campbell ● 2526d

@Paul D. Do you mean "interesting" - or "depressing". I think the real answer to your question as to how they react is do they care about austerity, welfare, local issues, etc, or even understand them? As you say, they are there for one purpose only: to bote for Johnson's deal that will further divide and likely split up the UK ☹

Michael Ixer ● 2526d

I have spoken to Fleur, and now voted for her.Nick

Nicholas Evans ● 2526d

Ha, Ha. Hope you didn't post too many emails to your boss st the same time 🙈 Also it would be sad if you are too hungover to vote for Will ...

Michael Ixer ● 2526d

I’m ok thanks gents! I’ve been up early and you can meet me at the polls. I will be collecting your cards and numbers around lunchtime. I have day off work!Work Christmas party tonight so will try and stay off the forum!

Nick Gulliford ● 2526d

"Apologies all, I was about 10 pints down last night when I posted!"I was wondering what your definition of "the odd beer" was.

David Ainsworth ● 2526d

🤣

Allen Bracchi ● 2526d

Good morning Mary,I voted this morning and the choices were named candidates of the different parties, meaning Will Street, Fleur Anderson, etc. There was not general option for Conservatives, Labour, etc.

Ivonne Holliday ● 2526d

Ha ha that’s got me laughing David.Cheers Nick

Nick Gulliford ● 2526d

Nick, if I can get Jeremy to introduce this as Labour emplyment policy before the next election will you consider changing you vote 🙂https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50731781

Michael Ixer ● 2526d

William Hill ahora tiene Fleur Anderson en 4/7 para ganar. Si están en lo correcto, y espero que lo estén, me complace aportar £ 20 para comprar un boleto de avión para que Nick G repase su español en Venezuela. Una sola, naturalmente.

John Cameron ● 2526d

I just got out my Pretentious-O-Meter and it’s giving a 100% reading.  Perhaps the Forum needs its own Pseuds Corner.

Martine Guy ● 2526d

John, qué perspectiva tan seductora - aunque quizá no lo suficiente para votar por Fleur ;-) Vivan los linguistas!

I. Wooller ● 2526d

Pretencioso!

Martine Guy ● 2526d

Hi Ivonne, thanks, I understand how ballots work.  the parties have to have a named candidate on the ballot and it has to be an actual person (even though that person doesn't have to actually live in the seat).  But the control game is what party gets the most seats, so you're voting for which party you want to form a government, no matter the person that is on the ballot.

Mary McCue ● 2525d

John Cameron, sorry to be personal but are you OK?  Have you gone a bit mad?  We've seen it coming for a long time, but maybe have a chat with your wife and then your doctor.  These things happen to the best of us.Deseándolelo lo mejor, los hospitales tienen curas maravillosas en estos días.

Bunny Payne ● 2525d