It's difficult to say where it will end. I feel socialists, for example, Corbyn were luke warm on the EU because although it gave things such as workers rights it was still based around free markets whereas I think Johnson et all are in favour of global markets - probably even the old EEC - but their main objection to the EU was the regulatory aspects and freedom of labour movement. However, as Neil Woodford (financial probity), Boeing & Whirlpool (safety of manufacture products), Travelex & Dixon Carphone (data rights) seem to prove strong and effective regulation of markets is necessary to protect consumers, and I believe those wanting more control of labour markets aren't necessarily xenophobic or racist (although some do express those views) but just want more control over labour markets for their own capitalistic financial aims. Perhaps what we need now, given the divide fait accompli we now have, is someone brave enough to consider it is a looser "Federation of the British Isles" than the UK formed of England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and, possibly even a London City State; that might at least still a complete uncontrolled collapse of the UK? Gibraltar and the Crown Dependencies could be given an option to join. That might give some - Scotland, Northern Ireland, London, Gibraltar - an opportunity to join the EEA in the short term, and provide an eventual return to the EU? England could have a new capital city in Manchester, Birmingham or Newcastle? Everyone gets what they want then, possibly more migration in both ways between London and the remainder of England but that happens anyway? Just one idea for debate ...
Michael Ixer ● 2496d