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Keir Starmer caught lying to British children

Kier Starmer caught on video telling a group of schoolchildren there was no homelessness in the UK 10 years ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ITFYul362g

Mike Essam ● 2332d21 Comments

Hmmmmm......  

Ivonne Holliday ● 2332d

Is that the best you can come up with about Keir Starmer? He wasn't even an MP then. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel! I've lost count of the  lies  Boris Johnson has made during his political career, both professionally and personally.

Lucille Grant ● 2332d

Many years ago I was befriended by a guy at work who was a member of the National Front. He was always very willing to supply leaflets and other information about his cause. I quickly observed how selective the information therein was.What you have here is a video clip in which Keir Starmer says "Ten years ago, you didn't have this".This is a forum for local issues to be discussed. Why don't you take your right wing propaganda elsewhere

Michael Winstanley ● 2332d

According to Wiki the homelessness figures show it has been going on for many many years, and not just 10.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_EnglandAnother post from Mr Winstanley showing what a rude and arrogant man he is. Had a bad weekend by any chance?

Julie Goodyear ● 2332d

The clip is far too short to make any judgement without seeing the context of the full video, which I'm sure Mr Essam will provide for us if he's making a serious point and cares about homeless. Homelessness is a long term problem - Shelter was formed back in 1966. I'd make a couple of observations. Firstly, when I was working near Holborn in the 1970s I don't recall the rough sleepers in the Strand or the cardboard tent city around the Southbank/Waterloo - they seemed to appear during the Thatcher government during the 1980s? Secondly, I don't recall any rough sleepers in Putney when I moved here in 1979; they do seem to have materialised in the past ten years? Or is lockdown causing my memory to fail?

Michael Ixer ● 2332d

I agree Michael (although I am also prone to memory failure lol) I don't recall rough sleepers in Putney when I moved here in 1980 either. They became part of the local landscape long after that.

Lucille Grant ● 2331d

there were far more derelict buildings in the 70's and 80's, it's likely rough sleepers were sleeping in abandoned buildings rather than shop doorways.

Adam Tripp ● 2331d

in the late 1980s (early 1990s?) when the area around the IBM building was to be developed, planning permission for the demolition of a large white, riverside building was denied. Although listed the building was derelict, surprise, surprise it burnt down one night and had to be demolished, the fire was thought to have been caused accidentally by rough sleepers...

Adam Tripp ● 2331d

Mmm ... an acquaintance of mine who at one time worked in insurance noted that businesses in financial trouble were more likely to burn down than profitable ones ... obviously fore for prevention measures cost money ...

Michael Ixer ● 2331d

The Big Issue carried a piece about lying for votes claiming that Johnson lied about homeless figures. Sounds about right. He lied about numbers of children in relative poverty recently at PMQs. So many more examples of Johnson's economy with the truth as I'm sure you're aware but people 'believe' in him.

Lynne McNulty ● 2331d

If this is the best the Tories can do, Putney will be a Labour seat for the next 50 years!!

Daniel Shearer ● 2331d

Oh ffs, 10 years ago... really?  Just think what your were doing 10 years ago.... I do hope that we've all improved and learned since then.  I did some pretty shocking things when I was 18, but I don't expect to be beaten over the head with them now (or I hope not) !!

Bunny Payne ● 2331d

Thank you, Bunny, for a dose of reality. Meanwhile, no response from Mr Essam to Michael's request for the full context and source of the video.

Richard Carter ● 2331d

I call ‘Troll’ on both Mr Essam and Ms Goodyear

Craig Fordham ● 2331d

I think it’s time someone started a new thread “what I did when I was 18”. Bunny?

Jonathan Callaway ● 2331d

At PMQs on 17 June, Johnson was caught out in two lies:1. He said that absolute poverty and relative poverty have both declined under this Government.2. He also said that there are 400,000 fewer families living in poverty now than there were in 2010.The Director of Evidence for the Children's Commissioner for England has carried out a fact check on these claims and shown them to be false.(In addition, Keir Starmer said at the same discussion that an additional 600,000 children are now living in relative poverty compared with 2012 and that the total number of children in poverty is projected to rise to 5.2 million by 2022. Both these claims were found to be correct.)Jackass 0, Truth 2.https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/2020/06/22/fact-checking-claims-about-child-poverty/

Richard Carter ● 2331d

One hopes Keir Starmer will return to this topic at the next PMQs and indeed every one thereafter.

Jonathan Callaway ● 2330d

Jonathon, not me!!  I have to live here, besides I'm sure you've all done a lot worse!! ;)

Bunny Payne ● 2330d

Agreed, Bunny.  I don't think we should go there ...

Michael Ixer ● 2330d

Well I can’t remember much anyway!  Must have involved pubs and beer but very little else. Maybe going to Old Trafford (footie not cricket).

Jonathan Callaway ● 2330d

On reflection Mike, I tend to agree. The stuff I do remember was after I was 18 and went to uni.  Yup, let’s change the subject!

Jonathan Callaway ● 2330d