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Taken from the Spectator"How to stop the next massacre of British Jews"24 December 2025, 11:25amStephen Daisley'No one remembers the ones they catch in time. Walid Saadaoui and Amar Hussein will quickly be forgotten and so will the carnage they planned to visit upon British Jews. The men were convicted at Preston Crown Court on Tuesday of preparing terrorist acts. A third man, Bilel Saadaoui, brother of Walid, was found guilty of failing to disclose information about planned terrorist acts. Walid plotted to open fire on a march against anti-Semitism in Manchester city centre before moving onto a Jewish area in the north of the city to continue the massacre. Police officers who got in the way were to be shot dead.How many more Walid Saadaouis and Amar Husseins are out there in Britain, and how many Bilel Saadaouis? It’s the Bilels that should worry us the most. Islamism is the primary terrorist threat to the UK and while it is possible to detect, monitor and disrupt some – though not all or even most – plotters, the state is essentially powerless against those who sympathise with the jihadists, keep their secrets, turn a blind eye to red-flags, and do the small favours that smooth the path for larger outrages. Most Britons, upon learning that their brother was planning the mass murder of Jews, would go to the police. Bilel Saadaoui did not.Whether that was out of ideological sympathy or familial loyalty, his actions were alien to British culture. They echo those cultures at work in Rotherham, Rochdale and elsewhere, in which the organised sexual exploitation of white British girls by mainly Pakistani-heritage men was able to take place in a semi-open fashion, in ways that created a significant number of witnesses, and yet prompted very few whistleblowers. While almost anyone from anywhere can be integrated and become a productive, valued member of UK society, there are cultures which are plainly incompatible with British norms.It is not enough to identify and prosecute individuals, the state has to root out those cultures which have only been present in this country for a few generations but have already confirmed themselves as fundamental threats. As always, it’s important to underscore that we are talking about cultures — ideas, norms and practices — not ethnic or religious categories. Being a devout Muslim, or a thoroughly heretical one for that matter, is no barrier to Britishness. Being a Muslim prepared to kill for Islam, minded to impose Islamic preferences, or wishing to forcibly convert others — or one who greets these prospects with anything other than revulsion and rejection — is an insurmountable barrier to Britishness. We need to root out not only the Walids but the Bilels, too.To do that, we must begin by accepting that multiculturalism is not only a false and failed doctrine but one that imperils national security and social cohesion. Individuals should be free to express their identity, celebrate their heritage, and practise their customs insofar as none of these threaten the existence of the state, contravene its laws, demand unreasonable accommodation, or attempt to supplant the dominant culture. For its part, the state should tackle the domestic Islamism problem via aggressive integration and a hostile environment – and tackle the Islamism importation problem via more stringent immigration and asylum policies.I sketched out in an earlier article what these might look like in the wake of the Heaton Park synagogue shooting, but they should include providing services only in English (and other historic UK languages); proscribing cousin marriage; protecting the freedom to blaspheme, including by burning the Qur’an and depicting Mohammed; denying recourse to public funds to non-citizens; heavily taxing remittances; deporting migrants convicted of violent crimes or deemed to espouse Islamist views or behaviours; turning back Channel boats, detaining irregular migrants offshore, and deporting anyone who passes through a safe country to enter the UK.These are crude measures, but crude measures are all we have left.As a former idealist of both multiculturalism and mass immigration – and here ‘idealist’ should be understood to mean ‘damned bloody fool’ – I can only offer mea culpas and try to dissuade others from my foolishness by way of penance. Neither Walid nor Bilel Saadaoui is British, and nor is Amar Hussein. Their loyalty is to Islamism. That is their state, their flag and their culture. They are not our compatriots, they are the enemy within. The government should resolve to drive out this enemy and prevent it from entering in the first place.

John Hawkes ● 18d

John, I have no idea whether David Ainsworth is anti-Semitic in the traditional sense of disliking Jews. I hope not. But his posts certainly suggest that he is anti-Zionist, which is the modern form of anti-Semitism. He often refers to dates before the creation of Israel when Jewish emigration to Palestine took place, both under the Turks and the British Mandate, his implication being that the rights of the Palestinians were usurped by Jewish settlers. This tendentious reading of history, in which the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Jews from North Africa and the Middle East is never mentioned, is clearly designed to delegitimise the State of Israel. It is a view propagated by Islamist groups like Hamas and unfortunately shared by millions of young people in Britain, summed up in the hateful chant, ‘From the river to the sea’. What I find frustrating about David Ainsworth is that, when challenged, he refuses to clarify his views. His approach is best described by Alexander Pope’s phrase, ‘Willing to wound but afraid to strike’. Personally I think it is a waste of time arguing with someone who refuses to be up front about what he believes. And before anyone posts. ‘ Just because you are critical of Israel’s campaign in Gaza or support the creation of a Palestinian state on the West Bank, it doesn’t make you an an anti-Semite’, I agree. It doesn’t it. But I think criticism of Israel should be  proportionate, which excludes blood libels such as the false accusation of genocide.

Steven Rose ● 19d

Mr Ainsworth'Denying the Palestinian people the right to self-determination often leads to demonization of Palestinians'.Who is denying the Palestinians the right to self determination ?Who amongst the warring Palestinian factions are organising for this self-determination to be expressed ?What are the names of the political Parties in Palestine that are pressing for any voting on the issue to take place ?Is Hamas one such ?Is it not the fact that most Palestinian political entities to not want to put this issue before the Palestinian people because they wish to put all their effort into annihilating Israel ?The history of Palestinians trying to organise elections is not an impressive one.Wiki - "Elections in Palestine are held sporadically. Elections for the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) were held in Palestinian Autonomous areas from 1994 until their transition into the State of Palestine in 2013. **Elections were scheduled to be held in 2009,[1] but was postponed because of the Fatah–Hamas conflict. President Mahmoud Abbas agreed to stay on until the next election,[2] but he was recognized as president only in the West Bank and not by Hamas in Gaza**. The Palestinian National Authority has held several elections in the Palestinian territories, including elections for president, the legislature and local councils. The PNA has a multi-party system, with numerous parties. In this system, Fatah is the dominant party.The first legislative and presidential elections were held in 1996; the first local elections in January–May 2005. Previous (failed) Legislative Council elections were held in 1923 under the British Mandate, and previous municipal elections were held in 1972 and 1976, organized by the Israeli government.[3]The Palestinian Legislative Council passed a law in June 2005 (signed by Abbas on 13 August 2005), to increase the number of members from 88 to 132, with half to be elected using proportional representation and half by plurality-at-large voting in traditional constituencies.[4] The January 2005 presidential election was won by Abbas of Fatah, while the January 2006 legislative election was won by Hamas. **In 2007, a presidential decree abolished the constituency seats with all seats to be elected from a national list, and prohibited parties which did not acknowledge the Palestine Liberation Organization's right to represent the Palestinian people (specifically Hamas) from contesting the election**.[5] An opinion poll suggested that a majority of Palestinians supported the change, while Hamas called it illegal.[6]Also regarding Gaza specifically ="Hamas began governing the Gaza Strip in June 2007 when it took over the territory from the rival Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority (PA).[6][7][8] The Hamas administration was first led by Ismail Haniyeh from June 2007 until February 2017; then by Yahya Sinwar until his killing in October 2024; then by Mohammed Sinwar until his assassination in May 2025; and since then by Izz al-Din al-Haddad. During the Gaza war (2023–present), the group lost control over most of the Gaza Strip to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF),[9] and as a result of the Gaza peace plan, agreed in October 2025, the IDF currently controls approximately 53% of the territory. **United Nations Security Council Resolution 2803, adopted on 17 November 2025, contains provisions to effectively place the Gaza Strip under international administration.**After Hamas won the Palestinian legislative elections on 25 January 2006, Ismail Haniyeh was nominated as the prime minister of the PA, establishing a national unity government with Fatah. This government effectively collapsed with the outbreak of the violent conflict between Hamas and Fatah. After the takeover of the Gaza Strip by Hamas on 14 June 2007, PA president Mahmoud Abbas dismissed the Hamas-led government and appointed Salam Fayyad as prime minister.[10] Though the new Palestinian government's authority was claimed to extend to both the Palestinian territories, in effect it became limited to the West Bank, as Hamas did not recognize the dismissal and continued to rule the Gaza Strip as an effectively separate administration from the PA.[11][12][13] **There have been reconciliation attempts between Fatah and Hamas since the 2007 split; a brief Palestinian unity government in 2014 failed to organize elections and reunify the Palestinian territories.[14] A third government was formed by Hamas in October 2016.Since Hamas assumed control over the Gaza Strip, it has engaged in multiple wars with Israel, including those in 2008, 2012, 2014, and an ongoing one since 2023. Hamas lost control of the majority of the Strip in early June 2025, amidst Operation Gideon's Chariots.[15] Hamas has also come into conflict with rival Islamist factions in Gaza that adhere to Salafi-jihadism. Examples include the 2009 revolt of Jund Ansar Allah against Hamas in Rafah, and the 2011 Hamas crackdown on Tawhid al-Jihad after the latter's murder of Vittorio Arrigoni.[16][17]

John Hawkes ● 21d

Mr Ainsworth'Where will this state of Palestine be, Mr H? What are Israel's final borders to be? Nobody knows. Gaza now half-size, and the West Bank already much decreased. And Syria and Lebanon? Keep viewing'.Surely Israel's borders are defined and agreed. Any attacks by it on Gaza, the West Bank, Syria and Lebanon are as you well know are defensive responses to attacks by Islamic terrorist groups based there.Why should successful and thriving Israel want to burden itself with these backward Islamist Arab states ? Wiki - "As of September 2025, the State of Israel is recognized as a sovereign state by 160 of the other 192 member states of the United Nations, or approximately 84% of all UN members. The State of Israel was formally established by the Israeli Declaration of Independence on 14 May 1948, and was admitted to the United Nations (UN) as a full member state on 11 May 1949.[1][2] It also maintains bilateral ties with all of the UNSC Permanent Five. 32[a] member states have either never formally recognized Israel or have withdrawn their recognition; others have severed diplomatic relations without explicitly withdrawing their recognition. Additionally, many non-recognizing countries have challenged Israel's existence—**predominantly those in the Muslim world**—due to significant animosity stemming from the Israeli–Palestinian conflict and the Arab–Israeli conflict.[3]Would you please point me to a definition of the territory that makes up the entity called Palestine ?Especially as the 'leaders' of its two political factions are if not literally, at war with each other.Two or three short sentences should suffice.And your Spectator references are yet more of your puerile and childish digsYes I do read it and regarding its views on Palestinian terrorism and the right of Israel to exist I am sympathetic to its views.Glad to see you must have a subscription to it also.I also read "spiked online" that publishes articles for free by a frequent Spectator contributor the ex-editor of "Marxism Today" Brenden O'Neill.You should do so as well.It might be harder work for you than using AI to dredge up Israelophobic gobbets but it would broaden your mind enormously !

John Hawkes ● 21d

Mr WheelerWe are divided and not all of us are as condemnatory of Islamic terrorism as others.Interesting observations from the Spectator regarding the Australian Islamic terrorism massacre.'An Isis flag was also reportedly found in the car of the gunmen. Islamic terrorist attacks on innocents happen over and over again. If you’re going to be shocked by them, you’re really just unwilling to face up to the true cause of the killings.The reason these attacks will keep happening must be namedThose who tell us that they are shocked by these attacks are often sincere. They really are surprised, every time. They tell us that diversity is our strength because that’s what they believe, despite evidence to the contrary. Weekly marches call for jihad and intifada, and the mass murder of innocents follows. But these massacres are memory-holed so quickly that they are astonished by the next one.Every time our leaders proclaim their shock, as though astonishment was a virtue rather than a confession of moral and intellectual failure.Everyone should be angry about what led to the latest massacre, and sometimes everyone is. But the reason these attacks will keep happening – the reason men, women, and children will be slaughtered for being Jewish, or for being Christian, or for being the wrong side of the Shia-Sunni border – must be named. Those who are repeatedly shocked, those who are surprised every single time, refuse to see when the killings are the result of an anti-Semitic Islamic death cult acquiring influence and power. Instead, somehow, they attribute them to Islamophobia, colonialism, the Jews, Israel, the far right, and Elon Musk. Their suicidal empathy makes them blame everybody except the perpetrators.There are people who aren’t shocked, and they include large portions of the Muslim community. According to polling by the Henry Jackson Society in March 2024, 39 per cent of British Muslims did not believe that Hamas committed murder and rape on October 7. Half didn’t believe Israel had a right to exist, half thought the BBC had a pro-Israel bias – and just under half thought Jews in Britain wield too much power. For many of these people, Bondi will be neither baffling nor unexpected. They will be more concerned that the killings might cause ‘Islamophobia’.Roger Scruton said that conservatives identify with us and liberals identify with them, a formulation with a high degree of truth. This is a cultural war, but it has real casualties, and we need to recognise who is us, and who is them.Instead, we support and facilitate and even empathise with those who detest and want to destroy us. We fail to see the value in our own history and our own culture. And we choose to delude ourselves about the qualities that exist in others.We have Queers for Palestine, despite Palestinian society murdering those citizens it accuses of homosexuality. We have endless reminders of the glories of Islamic science, despite that light having flickered only briefly, almost a millennium ago, and even those glories were shaped by Greeks and Jews.The Metropolitan Police has responded to the Bondi attacks by saying it is ‘engaging with the Jewish community to understand what more we can do’. It’s too late for that.Islamist attacks are a regular and sickening feature of our lives now, and if we are shocked and surprised by the next one then our stupidity is not only wilful, it is collusion.We have had 9/11, July 7, the Bataclan, Lee Rigby, the Boston Marathon, the genocide of Yazidis, Charlie Hebdo, Boko Haram, Nice, Manchester, Rouen, October 7, Bondi.Islamist terrorists will slaughter again, and again, and then again. Leaders who continue to be shocked by this are aiding those who killed this weekend and will kill again in future'.

John Hawkes ● 27d